Objecting to Go Ape in Pollok Park
Posted by: Richard in Glasgow, Politics, Scotland, Scottish PoliticsI’ve previously blogged about the Go Ape proposal in Pollok Park (here and here). It’s currently a very hot topic in Glasgow, and the letters pages of the various newspapers have been full of debate, largely because of the excellent efforts of the Save Pollok Park campaign.
A lot of people, myself included, feel that Glasgow council have been extremely underhand in how they have handled the “consultation”, massaging the process by asking large numbers of school children to express their views, and not publicising it in any way in the park itself, or the local community.
My core objection though is the ongoing attack this seems to represent on the park itself. It was given to the people of Glasgow in a wonderful spirit of generosity by the Maxwell family. To start carving more of it up, and charging people for the privilege of using it, is counter to the spirit of the gift. It has already been developed on with sports facilities, police facilities, playgrounds and the necessary roads/parking. There’s also The Burrell Collection, but that compliments the park in many ways, and is free to everybody.
I’ve finally written off my official objection (text follows if it’s of interest), and also written to my three local councillors.
I’d encourage anybody who cares about the park to do similar. There are excellent resources to help construct a letter at www.savepollokpark.com – Be sure to CC your local councillors too if you’re a Glasgow council taxpayer.
Dear Mr Malik, Mr Meikle and Mr Rabbani,
As my local councillors, I’m sure you will be aware of the Go Ape proposal.
Whilst I know that Go Ape is a fun outdoor activity, it is in my view entirely unsuited to Pollok Park, and will fundamentally change one of the few remaining quiet parts of the park, and goes against the very spirit of the gift by charging park users.
I took the liberty of CC’ing you on my objection letter to Mr McCollam which further outlines my concerns.
As my elected representatives on Glasgow council, I would strongly encourage you to consider the long term negative impact this proposal will have on Pollok Park, easily one of the UK’s best inner-city parks, and use the power and influence you have to ensure this ill-conceived proposal goes no further.
Yours faithfully,
Richard Leyton, Shawlands, Glasgow
Letter to Planning Officer:
From: Richard Leyton Date: 17 January 2008 16:54:28 GMT To: Sean McCollam Cc: Irfan Rabbani, David Meikle, Khalil Malik Subject: Go Ape proposal (Pollok Park 07/0308)
Dear Mr McCollam,
I’m writing to formally register my objection to the Go Ape proposal for Pollok Park (Ref Pollok Park 07/0308)
My objection is founded on a number of matters:
Insufficent publicity of the proposals. Despite being a regular (3+ times per week) park user, I have yet to see any public announcements of the proposals in or around the park; Further, as a very nearby resident, no attempt appears to have been made to alert us to the proposals, which is a new commercial enterprise will impact locally.
Noise – Having recently seen the Aberfoyle installation, I’m aware that ‘Go Ape’, when used, is not an altogether quiet activity. Zip slides, and elevated voices carry much further, and by the very nature of the activity, I doubt it’ll be quiet conversation between participants much of the time. This proposed location is in a section of the park that remains one of the last quiet parts. The noise will seriously detract from its appeal.
The park was bequeathed to the people of Glasgow by the Maxwell family, in what was a very generous gesture. It seems to be entirely disrespectful of the spirit of their intentions to make parts of it only accessible having paid money.
With the Burrell collection, police buildings, car parking, and sports facilities, Pollok Park has already lost a lot of parkland. This development would further reduce the remaining park space.
Impact on existing facilities – Pollok park is already a busy attraction. A new facility will make it busier still. Walking/jogging along the roads is already made dangerous by speeding cars. More cars/coaches will make it more dangerous still.
The Aberfoyle Go Ape facility is only an hour away from Glasgow, and hardly inconvenient for anybody wishing to take part in such an activity.
I would appreciate it if you would acknowledge receipt of this letter,
Yours sincerely,
Richard Leyton, Shawlands,Glasgow
CC. Cllrs Malik, Meikle and Rabbani, Pollokshield Ward.

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January 17th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Richard
Is there a Covenant on the Land. Sometimes this can be helpful.
January 18th, 2008 at 11:59 am
The land was given over with specific conditions, and I gather the Maxwell family have expressed anger about the proposal, and have engaged lawyers:
http://tinyurl.com/3y7ues
Fingers crossed. Together with the National Trust for Scotland, all the community councils and the Maxwell family, it’s hard to imagine the council getting very far with it now.
But never say never, especially when councils are concerned. They’re belligerent sods.
r.
January 20th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Is it right that land bequethed to the City has to be held in perpetuity as it is? The Maxwell family descendents are so upset would they like it back? More than likely, so that they can sell it off for housebuilding.
I’m not convinced that Go Ape is such a bad idea. This could be a facility which many youngsters in Glasgow would never get to experience if it wasnt on their doorstep. We have lots of parks in Glasgow. I don’t see why this one can’t accommodate this facility.
Do we live in a society where opposing everything has become the norm?
January 20th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Hello Parksr-4all,
I trust you’ll write to your local councillors with your support. One thing that many people have found concerning is that the council ran a highly dubious ‘consultation’, with very little publicity to anybody who might have a contrary view (ie. regular park users and local residents).
I’m not against Go Ape either, I just don’t think the location they’re proposing is good. Plus the facility in Aberfoyle is only an hour away!? Is it beyond the wherewithal of Glasgow council, or interested kids, to arrange a bus or car to go there?Of course not. It looks like a lot of fun, and I’d love to try it, but not in one of the few remaining inner city parks.
I don’t know the finances of likely visitors, but I’d imagine that £24 for an accompanied teenager to go on it. is likely to be a bit too much for families struggling on income support. Only a few hundred places are available to the council for free.
Lots of parks? Maybe that’s so, but the number that have been left undeveloped is increasingly small. Just walk up the road from Pollok park to Titwood park, for instance.
The campaign is not about NIMBYism. It’s about ensuring our council properly consults, and considers all implications. It is also about ensuring that a generous donation from a family isn’t disrespected.
As I say, get along to the public meeting on Tuesday to ensure the views you’re representing are heard. I’m sure the council and Go Ape representatives will be pleased to hear you. Write in expressing your support for it. I’d rather a balanced and representative decision was made, than one that was based on a falsehood, as this council is attempting to do.
r.
January 20th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Thanks for the response Richard and I only wish some of the so-called ‘community representatives’ were so balanced in their wishing for an open debate.
What am not sure on is how the Council should consult. Should every resident within say a two mile radius receive information on the proposals? Should there be a budget limit on consultations or is it to be paid for regardless of the cost?
There are a lot of things I would criticise the Council for but on this occasion I think they were fairly open about it.
If elected members were so out of touch, I’m sure they would be calling this proposal and making political hay but the reality is they have been informed along with the Community Councils at every step of the way from what I can see. Are the councillors of all parties out of touch?
January 23rd, 2008 at 9:51 am
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