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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lindsay</title>
		<link>http://www.leyton.org/diary/2006/03/02/dust-dust-everywhere/#comment-23711</link>
		<dc:creator>lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Ivan&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am too busy to go further with this however to feed you,I will say I have never worked or have ever quoted to do work for Mat and Liz.There is a rival behind this nonsense.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ivan</p>
<p>I am too busy to go further with this however to feed you,I will say I have never worked or have ever quoted to do work for Mat and Liz.There is a rival behind this nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://www.leyton.org/diary/2006/03/02/dust-dust-everywhere/#comment-23707</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lindsay, you're really not doing yourself any favours. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many people visiting and commenting here know Richard personally, or by reputation. Your insinuations about him and this "rival plastering company" are ridiculous. Your reply to Liz, referring to her as a "sicko", disgusts me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You are probably a nice enough person, but you need to take a step back and take a deep breath. Try re-reading your comments here, and imagine how they would seem to someone who knows Richard personally, and knows 100% he is not a rival of yours. Have you even looked at his site?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frankly, the best thing you could do now would be to apologise to all concerned, try to work out what went wrong with Matt and Liz's job, and improve your company so that it doesn't happen again.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Welcome to the information age. Try not to wash your own dirty linen in public, m'kay?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsay, you&#8217;re really not doing yourself any favours. </p>
<p>Many people visiting and commenting here know Richard personally, or by reputation. Your insinuations about him and this &#8220;rival plastering company&#8221; are ridiculous. Your reply to Liz, referring to her as a &#8220;sicko&#8221;, disgusts me.</p>
<p>You are probably a nice enough person, but you need to take a step back and take a deep breath. Try re-reading your comments here, and imagine how they would seem to someone who knows Richard personally, and knows 100% he is not a rival of yours. Have you even looked at his site?</p>
<p>Frankly, the best thing you could do now would be to apologise to all concerned, try to work out what went wrong with Matt and Liz&#8217;s job, and improve your company so that it doesn&#8217;t happen again.</p>
<p>Welcome to the information age. Try not to wash your own dirty linen in public, m&#8217;kay?</p>
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		<title>By: lindsay</title>
		<link>http://www.leyton.org/diary/2006/03/02/dust-dust-everywhere/#comment-23237</link>
		<dc:creator>lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok guys this blog has never effected my company until now even if it is only one job.My point from the begining was that there is no proof of my company undertaking any work or any proposed work at 'MAT AND LIZ'S 'house.I believe that a competitor( i dont know who) is trying to discredit my company even if it is on a small scale, nevertheless you must agree that anyones livelihood could be effected by false allegations on a blog site and this could happen to anyone.I think it is very wrong to post comments that cannot be backed up with proof of contract if requested by the accused especially when it has effected my company already.Some readers who want to throw more speculation into the ring may want to question who is the moderator/owner of this site,maybe he/she is friends with the rival plastering company trying to discredit my company (who knows),and that is why there is unbalance within the comments made.I understand that some readers of my comments will think I 'm going into a bit to much but I'm only trying to defend my company.no straw men here&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok guys this blog has never effected my company until now even if it is only one job.My point from the begining was that there is no proof of my company undertaking any work or any proposed work at &#8216;MAT AND LIZ&#8217;S &#8216;house.I believe that a competitor( i dont know who) is trying to discredit my company even if it is on a small scale, nevertheless you must agree that anyones livelihood could be effected by false allegations on a blog site and this could happen to anyone.I think it is very wrong to post comments that cannot be backed up with proof of contract if requested by the accused especially when it has effected my company already.Some readers who want to throw more speculation into the ring may want to question who is the moderator/owner of this site,maybe he/she is friends with the rival plastering company trying to discredit my company (who knows),and that is why there is unbalance within the comments made.I understand that some readers of my comments will think I &#8216;m going into a bit to much but I&#8217;m only trying to defend my company.no straw men here</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.leyton.org/diary/2006/03/02/dust-dust-everywhere/#comment-23233</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shouldn't it be really easy for Lindsay to provide details of this rival firm he claims Matt &#38; Liz work for?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Certainly a lot easier to do that than to provide evidence of a job that wasn't done!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I see it, Matt &#38; Liz are within their rights to talk about a company as they find them (within certain legal boundaries obviously) and Lindsay has the right to respond to any complaints.  He seems hell bent on throwing further accusations rather than actually tackling the ones thrown at him.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t it be really easy for Lindsay to provide details of this rival firm he claims Matt &amp; Liz work for?</p>
<p>Certainly a lot easier to do that than to provide evidence of a job that wasn&#8217;t done!</p>
<p>As I see it, Matt &amp; Liz are within their rights to talk about a company as they find them (within certain legal boundaries obviously) and Lindsay has the right to respond to any complaints.  He seems hell bent on throwing further accusations rather than actually tackling the ones thrown at him.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.leyton.org/diary/2006/03/02/dust-dust-everywhere/#comment-23228</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, Lindsay. Take a deep breath, and put the shovel down. I've not moderated out any of your comments. You clearly care about this matter, but I don't think you're doing yourself any favours.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You are also setting up a straw man. Their chief complaint is that you &lt;em&gt;didn't show up to complete a part of a job&lt;/em&gt;, and consequently caused them hassles and stress.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Quite how you take a picture of that, I don't know.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Answers on a post card please.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Lindsay. Take a deep breath, and put the shovel down. I&#8217;ve not moderated out any of your comments. You clearly care about this matter, but I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re doing yourself any favours.</p>
<p>You are also setting up a straw man. Their chief complaint is that you <em>didn&#8217;t show up to complete a part of a job</em>, and consequently caused them hassles and stress.</p>
<p>Quite how you take a picture of that, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Answers on a post card please.</p>
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		<title>By: lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;'friends'
This seems even more interesting,I see you decided not to post my last comment.Anyway Mr Barnes is an electrician who I have come across on many occasions he has worked at my house and is a reliable source I will speak to him today.Any readers of your website/blog must be able to see that your comments throw weight behind the 'my friends theory'.A shame it seems to be unbalanced now.As I have always stated Matt and Liz are for sure rivals,I have asked for evidence to be provided of works done by my company,none has been provided.Any more readers of this post ,if you decide to post my comments, will see what I have requested and will see that no supporting eveidence to these awful claims can be given.I hope you do post this so readers can see all that needs to be said has been said.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;friends&#8217;<br />
This seems even more interesting,I see you decided not to post my last comment.Anyway Mr Barnes is an electrician who I have come across on many occasions he has worked at my house and is a reliable source I will speak to him today.Any readers of your website/blog must be able to see that your comments throw weight behind the &#8216;my friends theory&#8217;.A shame it seems to be unbalanced now.As I have always stated Matt and Liz are for sure rivals,I have asked for evidence to be provided of works done by my company,none has been provided.Any more readers of this post ,if you decide to post my comments, will see what I have requested and will see that no supporting eveidence to these awful claims can be given.I hope you do post this so readers can see all that needs to be said has been said.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.leyton.org/diary/2006/03/02/dust-dust-everywhere/#comment-23223</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Doth the plasterer protest too much, methinks?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some blog author points, for the record.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Matt and Liz are good friends of mine. I've known Matt for over 11 years. Readers of my website are, I'm sure, more than capable of judging for themselves who to believe in this exchange. I can certainly verify (not least from the e-mail addresses I, as site owner, can see) that this Matt is no rival plasterer and these comments originate from a friend.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the subject of, er, the origins of some posts, the IP address used to make the comments from Lindsay is the same as "ADAM BARNES" back in March. I suppose it's perfectly possible that it was a friend borrowing a laptop, or wifi connection, but there may be other explanations that, for now at least, allude me. Where's a Unix systems administrator when you need one?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mr Barnes' comment had been destined for the delete button, but I thought if I'm going to allow the more recent posts through, I should go back and revisit it, and allow it through. For balance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ironically, this particular post didn't previously get much traffic at all. I spend an unhealthy amount of time staring at my web server stats to know this. Indeed, it didn't even feature on, er, relevant search engine results. At least, that was, until this thread kicked off this week. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ms Streisand may be worth referring to&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Finally, a general point: My website is largely open for all comers to post comments to. I try to only reject comments that are offensive, irrelevant or spam in nature. I'm &lt;em&gt;hoping&lt;/em&gt; all that needs to be said has, therefore, now been said, and that anybody who comes across this discussion can take it in the spirit it was intended by all of the posters.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doth the plasterer protest too much, methinks?</p>
<p>Some blog author points, for the record.</p>
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<p>Matt and Liz are good friends of mine. I&#8217;ve known Matt for over 11 years. Readers of my website are, I&#8217;m sure, more than capable of judging for themselves who to believe in this exchange. I can certainly verify (not least from the e-mail addresses I, as site owner, can see) that this Matt is no rival plasterer and these comments originate from a friend.</p>
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<p>On the subject of, er, the origins of some posts, the IP address used to make the comments from Lindsay is the same as &#8220;ADAM BARNES&#8221; back in March. I suppose it&#8217;s perfectly possible that it was a friend borrowing a laptop, or wifi connection, but there may be other explanations that, for now at least, allude me. Where&#8217;s a Unix systems administrator when you need one?</p>
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<p>Mr Barnes&#8217; comment had been destined for the delete button, but I thought if I&#8217;m going to allow the more recent posts through, I should go back and revisit it, and allow it through. For balance.</p>
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<p>Ironically, this particular post didn&#8217;t previously get much traffic at all. I spend an unhealthy amount of time staring at my web server stats to know this. Indeed, it didn&#8217;t even feature on, er, relevant search engine results. At least, that was, until this thread kicked off this week. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/en.wikipedia.org');">Ms Streisand may be worth referring to</a>.</p>
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<p>Finally, a general point: My website is largely open for all comers to post comments to. I try to only reject comments that are offensive, irrelevant or spam in nature. I&#8217;m <em>hoping</em> all that needs to be said has, therefore, now been said, and that anybody who comes across this discussion can take it in the spirit it was intended by all of the posters.</p>
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